Lilli Marleen

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Freitag, Mai 21, 2004
Turkey in the EU?
Last night we had a little meeting where we were talking about the EU. And I was shocked how many people still don't want to have Turkey in.
You can hear many reasons being discussed. here.
1 - the cultural difference; means: since Turkey is so different from central Europe, there won't be any cultural consent possible.
2 - the geographical difference; means: Turkey is, when you see it geographically, not in Europe. They are, at least partial, Asian.
3 - The religious; means: As an Islam state, and as the EU being christs, there won't be a ground for understanding.
There were mentioned some more, but let me give an answer to each of this numbers.
1 - Cultural difference. Hmm.... well, when I see what is usual day to day program when you live in a small village in Bavaria, I'd prefer to be on a market in Istanbul. At least there I know, I'm a trourist and can go home after my holiday.
2 - Geographical... You know what? Who cares? I mean, if there's some bit of water in between, I don't, but that can't be a reason, to get them out right now. Geography is just continental plates drifting together or apart, so what's the point?
3 - Religious; Oh my! In central Europe, we're mostly christian oriented, sure. But when you just take a look at Macedonia and their neighbours you'll find more Muslims than you expect. But noone is argueing against Macedonia; either they don't realize they're Muslim, too, or they just don't care. Turkey is doing some quite relaxed Islam, since they separate between state and religoin, what I find a great idea when it's really lived. I wish we'd do here.

I know, there are many more reasons pro and contra, but I think Turkey and Europe should join this great chance and set a plan for when in the next twenty years Turkey will join Europe.